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As more and more people become understandably vaccine hesitant, the government is becoming more and more authoritarian.

If we don’t want to end up in a dictatorship all vaccine choices, whether compliant or hesitant, must be accepted and respected.

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[Marcus] All right, one nation. Senator, Malcolm Roberts joining me in just tick. Here was an early caller, Dane. And I think he, this is a sentiment that many of you share. All right, Dane. Hello.

[Dane] Look, I was just ringing with regard to the plan. And you had mentioned in the bio, what plan does the government have. Now they’re been plenty with the stick, And always say, if you want to change behaviour, it’s a carrot or a stick. Okay? We’ve got people vaccinated. I’m currently vaccinated. Lot of people amongst the community are vaccinated. They’ve all got access to immunisation passport now on their phones. I’ve currently got it downloaded. And there’s no fear or confusion having that. So, if you want to encourage or change behaviour, why not allow those people who are fully vaccinated to travel further distances within the Sydney region. That gives you that Liberty. That gives you that freedom. If you want to be an anti-vaxxer, your prerogative, your choice still, but you just are not allowed to partake in these activities.

[Marcus] All right. Well, I know Malcolm Roberts, one nation Senator, won’t be happy with that sentiment. Hello, Malcolm.

[Malcolm] Good day Marcus. How are you?

[Marcus] Yeah, not bad. Did you hear that caller?

[Malcolm] I did, and I’m disgusted.

[Marcus] Why?

[Malcolm] Very simply. Because it’s segregating people. We don’t want segregation in this, in this country. That’s apartheid. We want freedom.

[Marcus] Well, you’ll never

[Malcolm] We want freedom, and we want government accountability.

[Marcus] What about QANTAS? Alan Joyce announcing yesterday that all of his workforce will need to be vaccinated in order for them to work.

[Malcolm] Well, let’s have a look at something else your caller just said. He talked about vaccine, what did he call them, anti-vaxxers. That’s a lot of rubbish. I’ll get to alan Joyce in a minute because he’s a tinpot dictator. We’ve got a range of people with legitimate responses to the vaccine.

[Marcus] Fair enough.

[Malcolm] We have, we have vaccine compliant people.

[Marcus] Mm, hm.

[Malcolm] We have vaccine reluctant people who will take the jab, but reluctantly. We have vaccine hesitant people. We have vaccine resistant people, and we have vaccine opponents. Everyone, I don’t care where you are in that spectrum, that is your choice to be there. I’m vaccine hesitant because I don’t see the data. Now, when it comes down on Joyce, the data shows that in Israel, the most heavily vaccinated country on this earth,

[Marcus] Yup.

[Malcolm] Vaccine efficacy is less than 40% within a couple of months of vaccine vaccination. In other words, and we’re also seeing now a higher proportion of the vaccinated in Israel, getting the virus, then amongst the population. That’s fact. The vaccine manufacturer, Pfizer, has admitted that the vaccine efficacy plummets, and it’s something that they have now applied to the food and drug administration in America. They give permission to do a third booster shot.

[Marcus] All right.

[Malcolm] How many boosters are we going to have?

[Marcus] Well.

[Malcolm] This is insane. The data shows that there is no difference between stopping the transmissibility with a vaccine or not. So there’s no point in getting vaccinated if you’re going to start, try and stop the virus spreading. The only solution to this is ivermectin. It’s proven to stop the transmission.

[Marcus] All right. Lunacy. That’s what you call these lockdowns. We don’t know when the hell we’re going to get out of it here in New South Wales. This thing’s running rapid. 4,000 cases where they’re not quite sure where it’s come from all the rest of it. But in the Northern territory, they’ve locked down on one case in Victoria. There’s this curfew between 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM across the Dutch in New Zealand. There’s been a lockdown just with one case. And that’s being blamed on New South Wales . Queensland, New South Wales offering no guarantee of no lockdowns, even at 80% of vaccination rates.

[Malcolm] It’s insane. It is absolute lunacy. What we saw in the in the initial stages in New Zealand was they did the modelling. And the modelling showed a massive spike in cases. Then it would come down to lock downs. Then they showed repeated, the modelling. This is the modelling, the same modelling that came out of this country, they showed repeated lockdowns, repeated lockdowns, repeated lockdowns. You can’t get away from this virus, it’s here. Now in Australia, they only showed us the modelling results after one lockdown. Remember they all said, flatten the curve and get back to normal? Rubbish. We’ll have repeated lockdowns, and that’s not a way to manage this. Even the crooked, corrupt, incompetent, dishonest world health organisation has slammed lockdowns as being ineffective and a brutal tool that used only to get control of the virus. So every time a state government implements a lockdown here, it is admitting to the people that it does not have control of the virus. What we need is a proper plan. I said it on 23rd of January, 23rd of March, Last year when we were passing the first of the measures for this virus through parliament. We need the data, we need a plan, and we need government accountability. We have got none of those. These people are just playing games with each other and it’s costing peoples lives.

[Marcus] All right, Malcolm, good to have you on. Appreciate your point of view as always. I mean, we were not privy even opposing members of parliament, even though they’ve taken it to committees here in New South Wales, the chief health officer is talked over by the health minister who will not release, for whatever reason, the health advice. It’s. And this is the irony. It’s public health advice, but the public don’t get to know.

[Malcolm] Exactly. Now I’ve got the advice out of the data, out of the chief medical officer in federal parliament, and sent us estimates. And he, he gave me the graph. The transmissibility of this virus is nothing unusual. The severity, the mortality, is low to moderate. It is less than some flu’s in the recent past in this country. That’s the fact. And now, what we’ve got now, last week we had a sensor motion, a condemnation motion against George Christians, for simply telling the truth. And for simply speaking up what his electorates are paying him to speak. And that’s the ending of democracy in this country. We have incompetent premiers, disastrously incompetent prime minister spraying, tirades at each other, inflicting lockdowns on people. This is incompetence and it’s a lack of accountability. And what we’ve got to do Marcus, is we’ve got to change the composition of the parliament. Get back to being parliament, holding governments accountable. We have got to get people to wake up and start realising if you vote for labour, you’re basically getting the same thing as liberal.

[Marcus] All right.

[Malcolm] There’s nothing happening between these two parties. There’s half the state governments are labour, half a state governments are liberal. The federal government’s liberal, and they made a complete meal of this. We need to get back to proper parliamentary democracy, where we have a voice for the people and every member of parliament speaking for his, his constituents, not for the parties brokers. It’s rubbish.

[Marcus] Yep, you’re fired up and I don’t blame you. Thank you, mate, for your perspective. Always welcome on the programme. We’ll catch up next week. Stay safe.

[Malcolm] Thanks Marcus. You too, mate.

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