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[Marcus Paul]

All right, welcome back to the programme on this Thursday, December 3, where it’s 22 minutes away from eight o’clock, New South Wales, daylight saving time. And Senator Malcolm Roberts joins us on the programme. Good day, Malcolm.

[Malcolm Roberts]

Good morning, Marcus, how are you?

[Marcus Paul]

I’m okay. I think you’d still be disappointed with the bank bail-in voted down this week. I know you’ve done a lot of work on it.

[Malcolm Roberts]

Yes, we were disappointed, but we were expecting to get, have it defeated. We were mildly hoping the labour party would wake up, But they abandoned their core, but what has been very good, Marcus, is that as a result of my speech and as a result of the work, one of the liberals came up to me later and he organised a meeting with me and our staff and himself and a senior advisor from the treasurer’s department.

And they now acknowledge that there is a problem and that they have promised to remedy it. So it looks like it’ll be taken care of, anyway, thanks to the effort we’ve done.

[Marcus Paul]

All right, just remind my listeners, What this is all about, what is the bail-in?

[Malcolm Roberts]

Well, let’s talk about a bail-out first. A bail-out is when a bank gets into trouble and the government gives it taxpayer money. So basically a bail-out is where the taxpayer money goes from the taxpayer through the government, to the bank, save the banks, even though the taxpayers didn’t cause the damage and bail-in is where the bank takes the depositors’ money and converts into shares.

So they get their money, they get the depositors’ money and get out of trouble. And in exchange, the depositors get worthless pieces of paper called shares because the bank is so close to collapse, it won’t be of any value.

So then that means that the depositors have a worthless piece of paper or they can hang on for a few years and hope that the bank comes back, which it probably will in our system, but a bail-in takes money, steals money from the depositors of the bank.

[Marcus Paul]

All right, and you’re hopeful that eventually after further discussions, even though it was voted down earlier this week, you’re hopeful that you will get this passed?

[Malcolm Roberts]

Well, not passed, but modified by the government itself. So it’ll take care of it. So either we’ll get the corrections that we wanted, the modifications we wanted in the government’s bill, so that there’s no bail-in. Or if there is a bail-in possibility, then at least it will be honestly portrayed.

And so everyone can make up their own mind what to do, but we think a bail-in would be better ruled out because it then instils confidence in the banks. We’ve had something like $20 billion in notes go disappearing in the last 12 months because people are scared of what will happen to their cash if there is a bail-in.

Because they’ve had bail-ins in Greece and other countries, we see this as a magnificent opportunity to clarify and to make it very, very clear to people what is happening.

[Marcus Paul]

All right, you want more of us to drink Australian wine?

[Malcolm Roberts]

Yeah. I didn’t know if you knew it, but 30% of our wine export goes to China.

[Marcus Paul]

Oh, yeah I knew it, well used to.

[Malcolm Roberts]

That’s double the UK, double the UK, double the US but an inter parliamentary alliance on China, our friends in parliamentarian and parliaments and congresses around the world showed support for Australia. And they’re really annoyed with the bullying of China against Australia.

So we actually saw a video that was made up of people from Japan, parliamentarians, from Japan, who said, you know, we like our saki better mate, but Aussie wine, go and buy a bottle of Aussie wine, and then the Italian saying we’re the number one wine exporters in the world, and we make the best wine, but go and get a bottle of Aussie wine.

So we’re encouraging Australians to go and spend a bit more time in the wine rose and liquor store and get stuck into some Aussie wine and show the Chinese that we will carry on regardless of their threats.

[Marcus Paul]

Well that’s right, there’s no 212% tariffs here at home with our domestic wine. I mean, we know that wine, the sector itself valued at $4 billion in September, 2020, before these ridiculous over-inflated tariffs were imposed. Maybe we can, I know we export around 15 and 14% respectively to the United Kingdom and to the United States of our wine products maybe we could up their share of exports and not worry too much about China.

[Malcolm Roberts]

Exactly, and I think this is a problem that’s coming home to roost Marcus, we’ve gone to China because it’s the easy way out. We haven’t done the hard yards in this country of fixing the tax system, reducing our energy costs. We’ve instead inflated our energy costs.

We’ve doubled in, some places tripled our electricity costs for example, instead of doing the hard yards to fixing that energy sector and stopping the rort on climate and the subsidies, and instead of fixing the taxation system to make manufacturing more competitive, we have taken a lazy way out and just exported iron ore to China, coal to China, raw materials to China, agricultural products to China and just bought, whatever we can from China, very lazy way.

We’ve destroyed our manufacturing, let China supply us, and we’ve got to stop that. We’ve got to rebuild this country, bring it back to basics.

[Marcus Paul]

You’re not still betting on a Trump win, are you?

[Malcolm Roberts]

Oh yes, definitely. Definitely.

[Marcus Paul]

Malcolm, you still haven’t woken up.

[Malcolm Roberts]

No, no. The fact they’re coming in now there’s clear corruption, Marcus. And I think that Trump has recognised this. In fact, one of the Republicans said that we know there’s been corruption from the Democrats, especially for many, many years.

And Trump, to his credit has set the eyes in motion and the monitors in motion. And now it’s all coming home to roost for the Democrats. There’s serious corruption out there. And there’s a path for Trump to the White House. He’s definitely in.

[Marcus Paul]

Not till 2024, though.

[Malcolm Roberts]

No, no, it’ll be this year. You watch.

[Marcus Paul]

This year?

[Malcolm Roberts]

So much corruption going on that the constitution and the laws in America provides for this kind of circumstance. And Trump is in the box seat. He knows what he’s doing.

[Marcus Paul]

You want to bet me a bottle of wine on this? Australian wine

[Malcolm Roberts]

I definitely do.

[Marcus Paul]

All right. Now the Australian federal integrity commission, you know, that toothless tiger that’s been suggested, the centre for public integrity called a press conference to highlight the extensive inadequacies of the government’s draught Commonwealth integrity commission bill, 2020.

There were plenty of people present, including previous members of the high court, former judges from the Victorian court of appeal and a former judge of the New South Wales court of appeal. Now, Helen Haines MP has introduced a better version. The Australian federal integrity commission bill 2020. What do you say to this?

[Malcolm Roberts]

We actually like Helen Haines’s version much better. We’ve had a couple of presentations on it. We listened to Helen herself, came over to Pauline’s office and I joined them. It’s quite good. The Australian centre for public integrity endorses it. And the government’s bill is a shocker.

It’s just a lazy well, it doesn’t even work properly because politicians are treated differently from everyone else. They’re treated far too softly. And, that’s, you know, that’s the worst thing you can do to restore public confidence in the integrity in parliament.

The second thing is that the government’s proposal has a very high threshold for referrals. You have to be, have a lot of evidence there before you can even get through. And the third thing is that the Attorney General has powers to limit information that can be considered by the corruption commission.

[Marcus Paul]

Well as I said, it’s toothless.

[Malcolm Roberts]

Yes, that’s basically it, they can hide, they can still hide. And the other thing, Marcus, is it’s not retrospective meaning that we won’t be able to investigate any of the past dodgy dealings.

[Marcus Paul]

That’s right. And you know, we may never know why the government thought it was a great idea or a great investment to, you know, overspend on land at Badgerys Creek Airport, and the rest of it. Malcolm, I’ll have to leave it there today, but thank you very much, mate. We’ll catch up with you again next week.

[Malcolm Roberts]

I’ll look forward to drinking your wine.

[Marcus Paul]

He’s still in lala land over there. All right, mate. Good on you, we’ll talk soon.

[Malcolm Roberts]

See you, mate.

[Marcus Paul]

All right, there he is. Senator Malcolm Roberts.

$30 million of mining equipment parked and dormant at Oakey’s Acland mine is a powerful metaphor for Premier Palaszczuk’s parked and dormant response to approving Acland Stage 3.

Senator Roberts visited the Acland Mine last Friday and listened to staff and local community members after touring the coalface and rehabilitation areas.

The Acland visit, along with listening to residents who oppose the mine, helped Senator Roberts to satisfactorily address a long list of criteria around Stage 3.

“The only reason the Premier is dodging the final approvals is that she is running scared leading up to October’s election,” stated Senator Roberts.

“Palaszczuk has her eye on the upcoming October election as Labor panders to inner city Green voters and sacrifices mining jobs in regional Queensland to cling to power at all costs.”

“To use outstanding court proceedings as a cloak of delay seems dishonest and gutless since the Palaszczuk Labor government approved Adani despite that mine’s High Court case at the time” added Senator Roberts.

The Environmental Defenders Office, while independent, receives funding from Queensland taxpayers and provides free legal support for these ongoing vexatious claims from Green activists.

Senator Roberts said, “The Queensland government is creating untold uncertainty and anxiety in a community whose prosperity depends on these coal jobs, and their funding of the EDO perpetuates this delay.  “We need opportunities for job creation post COVID-19 and a green light for Acland Stage 3 is perfect timing for Queensland’s economic recovery.”

A One Nation motion asking the Government to rule out an appeal to the Federal Court decision that the 2011 Live Export Ban was unlawful, received a majority vote in the Senate today.

Senator Roberts moved the motion after the Government indicated they would appeal the decision.

Senator Roberts stated, “This decision should ensure the $750 million in compensation is paid to farmers whose livelihoods were destroyed by the Gillard Labor Government’s decision to suspend live cattle exports in 2011.”

“I call on the Government to honour today’s commitment and ensure families who have suffered financial hardship receive their compensation without further legal delay.”

Live exports are a fundamental part of our country, our economy and vital to regional Australia.

Senator Roberts added, “No Australian industry should be closed down overnight based on falsified reports, no consultation and with indifference to people’s livelihoods.

“The Government needs to pay the compensation now and restore confidence and security to the live export sector.”

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In 2011 the Gillard Government banned live cattle exports costing farming hundreds of millions of dollars.

Recently the Federal Court ruled that the ban was invalid and the government should pay compensation to farmers.

Today the Liberal and Nationals tried to introduce a motion claiming that they support the live cattle industry.

Well, I decided to see how firm their commitment was to farmers by introducing an amendment to their motion.

Take a listen and see what happened ……..

Transcript

Hi, I’m in Parliament House, Canberra. And I just wanted to bring you up to date with something that’s happened today. It goes back to the Gillard government’s capricious ban on live cattle exporting that hurt, devastated cattle industry right around the country.

Back, well, almost 10 years ago, 2011, I think it was. Anyway, it was recently ruled by the federal court to have been invalid. And compensation is to be paid to farmers around the country. Which is wonderful news.

So, the Nationals, led by Senator Canavan, it seems, decided to put a motion in the parliament, into the Senate today. And the motion said, “That the Senate “notes the federal government’s commitment and support “for the live animal export trade.”

So, we thought, okay, before that motion gets up, we’ll add an amendment. And our amendment says, “And calls on the government “to rule out appealing the federal courts decision “that Labor’s 2011 suspension of live cattle exports “was invalid.”

In other words, we want to make sure that the government does not appeal it. And so, as soon as I stood to move that amendment, it was denied. I was denied the formality of moving that. And Senator Cormann did that. he’s the leader of the government in the Senate.

He did that. And he said, the reason was because this amendment had only arrived with him and other senators in just minutes before. Well, the reality, the truth is that it was in the Senate chambers on every desk an hour and a quarter before. An hour and a quarter.

Plenty of time to consider it. So, what I noticed was, as soon as I sat down, Senator Canavan jumped to his feet, and said that he wanted to make a short statement. And that short statement said that he was talking with the government about not appealing.

So what we’ve done is we’ve forced them to recognise that they should not appeal. But we’ve had Senator Cormann contradict the truth. And we’ve had Senator Canavan apparently reacting to this. So that’s yet another way we get things done in parliament, even when they tell us to shut up.

I spoke in favour of the creation of the Office Of An Inspector-General of live cattle exports.

The purpose is to provide certainty that the welfare of the animals is being respected while at the same time ensuring the commercial viability of the cattle export trade.

Animal welfare is crucial to farmers because farmers care for their animals.

That’s why farmers have poured tens of millions of dollars into educating people who handle their cattle overseas. I was following, in the speaking
order, a vet who said that core to the farming business in cattle and sheep is weight and that farm animals lose weight under stress. It is in the farmer’s financial interest and their own moral and ethical interests to look after animals.

That’s why farmers care for animals.

Transcript

As a servant to the people of Queensland in Australia, I want to speak in favour of this bill. Yet while I speak in favour of this bill, I want to explain two core contradictions that this bill highlights. First though, Madam Acting Deputy President, an overview. This bill provides for the creation of an Office of the Inspector General of Live Cattle Exports. The purpose is to provide certainty that the welfare of the animals is being respected, while at the same time ensuring the commercial viability of the export cattle trade.

Firstly though, animal welfare is crucial to farmers because farmers care for their animals. That’s why farmers have poured tens of millions of dollars into educating people who handle their cattle overseas. I’m following in the speaking order, a vet who’s just said that the core to the farming business in cattle and sheep is weighed and farm animals under stress lose weight. It is in the farmers’ financial interests and their own moral and ethical interests to look after animals. That’s why farmers care for animals. That’s why farmers have poured tens of millions of dollars into educating foreigners on how to handle cattle, Australian cattle overseas.

I can think of people like Bryce Camm that I’ve met in Central Queensland and in Darling Downs – bright, experienced, knowledgeable, committed. He points out things like export competitors, sophistication of farming these days. This is not just a simple matter of putting a few cattle on a boat, it is a very scientific business. Thinking of Linda Hewitt in Central Queensland – energetic, savvy, dedicated, and knowledgeable again, and similarly concerned about government interaction or interference in the business.

So Madam Acting Deputy President this bill is importantly not just about farm products, farm animals, it is about confidence in the cattle industry. Because with confidence graziers invest. With confidence graziers employ. With confidence graziers earn export earnings right across our country and that benefit comes through in the wealth of our nation Madam Acting Deputy President.

Some background facts. The live cattle trade generates $1.2 billion in export earnings, with $620 million being returned to the local economy. This employment is critical to local economies from TI in the north to Thargomindah in the south-west, from Cooktown in the north to Cunnamulla in the south-west. This employment is critical to local economies and in particular the Northern Territory and the northern parts of Western Australia and Queensland. Yet it’s important right across the country, not just in the Territory as Senator McMahon has just talked about her own state, but right across the country because the flow-on effects, as I’ll discuss in a minute.

But in the Kimberley for example, 700 local Aboriginals are provided with jobs by live cattle exports. Even the ABC noted that this job is “All these blokes know.” The live cattle export allows Australia to breed tropical, heat-resistant breeds of cattle in Northern Australia to be exported to Asia where they are generally grown-on locally. A lot of countries to which are live cattle and sheep are exported do not have refrigeration and people need to buy their food daily. And that means we’re looking after a need of theirs in their country. So this means the live cattle trade helps our economy, but it also helps economies right across Asia and the Middle East. It helps them with employment and also with domestic herd quality. It helps these countries overseas to help themselves.

Madam Acting deputy President, the graziers and employees like these Aboriginal stockmen loved these cattle. They respect these cattle because their income comes from the cattle and because they are living creatures as well. The demonization of the live cattle trade is an insult to good and decent and caring people. There is another perspective here that I want to add. As chair of the Select Committee on Lending to Primary Production Customers, I learned firsthand of the damage the banks and receivers do to so many cattle and so many rural producers. Yet I learned of more. I learned of government tipping farmers over the edge due to government interference in the Murray-Darling Basin, stealing a farmer’s property rights, the live cattle export ban, that flowed right across our country. It didn’t just affect the north. It affected the old cattle producers right around the country.

Prime Minister Gillard’s knee-jerk reaction, her capricious reaction in cancelling the live cattle trade after footage of foreign workers abusing our livestock emerged, caused terrible losses in the industry. These are now the subject of a $600 million class action lawsuit. Gillard’s reaction, Prime Minister Gillard’s reaction was to the ABC’s fabrications and sensationalism. It’s a pity that our farmers aren’t media savvy, because they would have been countering this a long time ago.

Yet farmers around this country are waking up. One thing that farmers won’t do though, unlike the Greens and the activists, the farmers will never tell lies. They’re using facts. And I want to commend their dedicated families, the communities that were cleaned out by the banks as a result of government facades. And now we’re entering even more dangerous territory because when a drought hits, it is often necessary to export cattle in this manner to save them from being put down. That option must available to farmers. This is, live cattle export is actually an animal welfare benefit. So One Nation are committed to ensuring live cattle and sheep and all animals are treated with the same respect overseas as they are treated in Australia and that’s why we support this bill. Farmers livelihoods, as I’ve said, requires care of animals. Yet the Green ideology says the reverse. I’ll discuss that further later this afternoon.

I got further now though because we are committed to ensuring not only farm animals but farmers and all Australians are treated with respect. So let’s consider the Liberal-Labour legacy that’s devastating agriculture. Here are just some of the things that I can list. The stealing of farmers’ property rights in 1996 under a Liberal government done with a deal with the Borbidge National Party government in Queensland. The Liberal federal government and the Borbidge state government. That was done as a result of the UN Kyoto Protocol. It was based on no data that the UN produced and it was based upon later implementation through the Labour party in the state of Queensland, a Liberal-Labour duopoly.

The lack of investment in water infrastructure is crippling our industry. We can see that now everywhere. A prominent Liberal, who I won’t mention, for whom I have some respect, was asked by a friend of mine just last week, “Why didn’t the Liberals invest in building dams 10 years ago?” And the answer was staggering. “Because we didn’t need them 10 years ago’,” was the answer. What rubbish. We need investment now to protect the future. Talking with a farmer in southern Queensland, who was talking in turn with a Chinese buyer in Japan, that’s how the international connections work. He was being told by the Chinaman that the problem with the Australian agricultural product is a lack of consistency. Not quality because our quality is better than anywhere else in the world. It’s the consistency of delivery, and this drought now stands as a beacon for that. So we need investment in water infrastructure, we need proper allocation of water.

Then we think about and some of the allocation has been affected by the UN’s Rio de Janeiro Declaration, which was based not on data, which has been implemented by the Labour government, followed by Liberal governments, and that was 1992 onwards.

Then we have energy policies, we have a drought and as I’ve said many times we have farmers in central and southern Queensland and north Queensland not planting fodder in a drought because they can’t afford the water prices. We’ve got cane farmers similarly worried about their energy prices affecting their farming, and the energy that’s crippling our country, the energy prices that are crippling our country are due to the UN’s Kyoto Protocol, the UN’s Rio de Janeiro Declaration, and the UN’s Paris Agreement – all based on no data, all due to the UN, and all implemented by both the Labour Party and the Liberal Party.

And now we have an insane government action in Queensland where the state Labour government is putting in severe penalties and restrictions based, again not on data, but on UN Protocols and on a consensus statement. Not science, a consensus statement. We’ll have get a cup of tea or a few beers and come up with a consensus statement.

Then we talk about the fishing that’s being decimated. Fishing industry decimated right around our country following UN Kyoto Protocol, following Rio de Janeiro Declaration in 1992 from the UN again.

Forestry, the same, no data to back it up, but now the Queensland Labour government wants to smash the forestry industry in south-east Queensland.

And then they’re just the specifics that are hurting agriculture in my state. And then we look at tax, we look at economic mismanagement, budget cycles now becoming ways of getting favours. And as a result, we see rural and regional Queensland being smashed. It’s not foreigners doing this, it is decades of the Liberal-Labour duopoly government.

Madam Acting Deputy President, we need real action, management and vision for the farmers of Australia. As I said, from TI to Thargomindah, from Cooktown to Cunnamulla, rural areas need the support of these restrictions, these artificial government imposed restrictions removed. Thank you, Madame Acting Deputy President.